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'Aiming For The Better' (IceResistance, 2018) — possible retrospective on the Coalition era

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### post #1 — IceResistance — Mar 7, 2019 at 12:36 AM

The guild community is beautiful, but not without its flaws. We've to the same point in guilds that has been repeated countless times in history. You have so much dislike, so much tension in you for another guild revolving around war that you don't even see behind the territories, you don't even see the community, practically because there is none. Guilds are meant to bring players in Wynncraft together, but all I see is it keeping people apart. When you decided to join a guild, you instantly became part of a bigger picture; the guild community. But that name has been stained over the years not by the outside, but by us the players in which make it up. Every guild is vital towards the success of the guild community as a whole. When guilds aren't doing well, their internal communities lacking, the guild community as a whole lacks. The issue in which we currently face it the separation between war and the guild itself, pertaining to its community. Wars are suppose to be fun, a friendly competition over the map. Too often though do we end up taking that tension outside of war, and into the community itself, overall losing that separation. Then all of a sudden, war is community and then we end up with all these problems that promote discord between others because wars are no longer just for fun and is the center of our guilds as a whole. There needs to be a fine line that distinguishes relations from war from outside of war, otherwise contention continues to grow between guilds and players in which they house that divides everyone. If we don't fix this, everyone will end up hurt. And don't point fingers at other guilds, look at your own guild. If we keep blaming each other for the issues that are happening, then we won't ever reach a solid solution. The center of community has been poisoned by war, displaced and forgotten. No guild is better, or worse then an other, and every guild unique and diverse to another and you should be proud of that. We should all have the same goal in mind, of repairing the community. I'm not going to tell you how to fix it. That is up to you. You in your guild, you find your solution to how to combat this. The fate of the community is up to everyone. It is only us that can build it up.

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### post #2 — Lego_DW — Mar 2, 2019 at 9:04 PM

i like this a lot

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### post #3 — Dood — Mar 2, 2019 at 9:20 PM

its part of the lore the corruption affects everyone differently and players want to war smh my head

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### post #4 — Robturne — Mar 2, 2019 at 9:29 PM

IceResistance said:

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There is a problem pertaining to the guild community. It is the community itself. We've gotten to the same point in guilds that has been repeated countless times in history. You have so much dislike, some much tension in you for another guild revolving around war that you don't even see behind the territories, you don't even see the community, practically because there is none. Guilds are meant to bring players in Wynncraft together, but all I see is it keeping people apart. When you decided to join a guild, you instantly became part of a bigger picture; the guild community. But that name has been stained over the years not by the outside, but by us the players in which make it up. Every guild is vital towards the success of the guild community as a whole. When guilds aren't doing well, their internal communities lacking, the guild community as a whole lacks. The issue in which we currently face it the separation between war and the guild itself, pertaining to its community. Wars are suppose to be fun, a friendly competition over the map. Too often though do we end up taking that tension outside of war, and into the community itself, overall losing that separation. Then all of a sudden, war is community and then we end up with all these problems that promote discord between others because wars are no longer just for fun and is the center of our guilds as a whole. There needs to be a fine line that distinguishes relations from war from outside of war, otherwise contention continues to grow between guilds and players in which they house that divides everyone. If we don't fix this, everyone will end up hurt. And don't point fingers at other guilds, look at your own guild. If we keep blaming each other for the issues that are happening, then we won't ever reach a solid solution. The center of community has been poisoned by war, displaced and forgotten. No guild is better, or worse then an other, and every guild unique and diverse to another. We should all have the same goal in mind, of repairing the community. I'm not going to tell you how to fix it. That is up to you. You in your guild, you find your solution to how to combat this. The fate of the community is up to everyone.
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do you know how boring the community would be if there was no conflict? lmao

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### post #5 — Goden — Mar 2, 2019 at 9:35 PM

not gonna lie man I think it's perfectly fine, but solid 8/10 on the poetic elements here

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### post #6 — IceResistance — Mar 2, 2019 at 9:57 PM

You don't get my point. Wars are fun and there is no problem. My message is that you shouldn't end friendships or close yourselves off from others community wise based on what is occurring in wars. Community and stuff like that, those relations should not be connected to war relations, otherwise everyone just ends up disliking each other. @Goden @HaiseKSasaki

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IceResistance said:

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Like, for example, me no longer being friends with someone anymore solely based on the fact we are competing against each other war wise.

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### post #7 — Robturne — Mar 3, 2019 at 12:17 AM

IceResistance said:

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Like, for example, me no longer being friends with someone anymore solely based on the fact we are competing against each other war wise.
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well if you want people to read it don't write a giant paragraph when people are trying to war, lmao. And I don't know anyone who has ended friendships personally over someone being in an enemy guild, it did happen to someone very close to me and I am still upset about it, but those people were just stupid and they weren't the majority of players, no community is perfect, what can you do? If you end a friendship because you're competing against each other in guild wars you're actually a fucking moron tbh.

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### post #8 — IceResistance — Mar 4, 2019 at 12:58 AM

Haise Sasaki said:

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Well, I'm glad we agree on something. But that isn't all the problem. The community seems to be at such a divide in wars that it is hurting the community aspects. Each side I hear just confessing their hate and dislike for the other that they don't even look behind the war part of it. The other thing to is how people can literally say they hate another person when they only know them through a screen. Like, you don't know them, you don't know who they are. They problem is that guilds in general end up isolating themselves from another because of their relations in the war environment. And sure, no community is perfect, but I don't think there is anything wrong with all of us trying to better to become more whole. I believe there should be a firm line between war and community. We should strive to build up a sense of unity in the community rather then consistently tearing bonds apart based on your guild's war affairs. We can't keep going like this because if we keep acting like wars revolve around everything in guilds, we lose our sense of the sole reason why guilds exist and what they are made to promote; community among players. However, that whole community idea has slowly been drowned out by nothing but a map of territories.

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### post #9 — IceResistance — Mar 4, 2019 at 1:00 AM

Dont get me wrong, wars are an entertaining aspect of the game. I am not anti-war.

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### post #10 — Pepo — Mar 4, 2019 at 1:07 AM

Uhh tbh no one can fix a community so if u don't like it just leave and switch communities

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### post #11 — Asthae — Mar 4, 2019 at 1:17 AM

Pepo said:

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Uhh tbh no one can fix a community so if u don't like it just leave and switch communities
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*claps*

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### post #12 — IceResistance — Mar 5, 2019 at 1:06 AM

Pepo said:

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Uhh tbh no one can fix a community so if u don't like it just leave and switch communities
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I find that untrue. I am a firm believer that people can change, and the community itself is the people that make it up. They only thing that matters is your mindset. Is it that bad to believe in the better, see the best in everyone and what we can achieve altogether? The guild community is beautiful but not without it's flaws. Now, nothing can ever be perfect, but if we can all strive to be better people to each other, who knows what we can achieve. Everyone in the guild community has at least one thing in common; their love for this game. This game did it's part in putting us altogether, but we can shoot for a more connected community.

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### post #13 — Pally — Mar 6, 2019 at 2:55 PM

Bump, this is true.

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### post #14 — Liliya — Mar 6, 2019 at 3:18 PM

You should advertise stuff like this in Discord lol

I didn't even see this until now

But I have to agree, even as owner of a guild that was purely for wars for the majority of their existence

However, I'm trying to change that for my guild

The first, quite big step for BCr was when Drew and I decided to get Fox and BCr closer together

I think all this hate between guilds takes the fun from the game

There is definitely a "too much", now for example between SOL and Luna, where people blame each other for things that aren't even entirely true, and become toxic

Wars should be a friendly competition, like playing a game with your family or friends, not a game of hate

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### post #15 — IceResistance — Mar 7, 2019 at 12:31 AM

Topper29 said:

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You should advertise stuff like this in Discord lol

I didn't even see this until now

But I have to agree, even as owner of a guild that was purely for wars for the majority of their existence

However, I'm trying to change that for my guild

The first, quite big step for BCr was when Drew and I decided to get Fox and BCr closer together

I think all this hate between guilds takes the fun from the game

There is definitely a "too much", now for example between SOL and Luna, where people blame each other for things that aren't even entirely true, and become toxic

Wars should be a friendly competition, like playing a game with your family or friends, not a game of hate
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Topper, I am glad you found meaning in my message. I'm also very proud of you in the approach and direction your taking. Wars are of course a crucial aspect of the game, but the whole aspect of it being a friendly competition and not interfering with community relations like friendships is essential. And yes, when there is hate, it absorbs the fun. We are all so similar as a community, all brought together by the same game, we can all enjoy it together if we play it right.

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### post #16 — Heart_Of_Stone — Mar 7, 2019 at 6:03 PM

There will always be conflict between guilds and players. Yes it sucks that it affects the community as a whole but you are always going to have conflict but in saying that, I am a guild leader myself and have seen the effects of war and how it affects the players. I totally agree that its not right to point fingers at people or others guilds. Its upsetting that people are losing friends because of the guild they're in or over territories. But sadly there will always be some sort of conflict but if you get a massive part of the community together maybe it won't be the only thing that people are talking about.

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### post #17 — IceResistance — Mar 7, 2019 at 10:25 PM

Heart_Of_Stone said:

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Yes, it is sad when conflicts interrupt the community because of war. And it will probably never disappear, but we can learn to recognize it more and help reduce it. If we can change the mindset of wars being linked to community, we can help reduce these problems.

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### post #18 — Heart_Of_Stone — Mar 8, 2019 at 3:36 AM

IceResistance said:

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I like you idea but trying to battle it will be hard if you want guild leaders to battle it as its more a bigger community thing rather than everyone deal with it in their guilds.

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