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TheNelston (Idiot Co, former ICo owner), 9 Dec 2023 — state-of-the-guild-community essay at the start of the private-diplomacy era; the best contemporary written diagnosis of why guild politics went silent
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### post #1 — TheNelston — Dec 9, 2023 at 4:25 PM

i was gonna post this in the your work section, but i wanted to have a sort of discussion thread that went beyond the scope of my video, so im dropping this here instead:

what do you guys think about the state of guilds right now? the biggest change i would ask for right away is new challenges for guilds to do, like guild raids, which would expand their purpose beyond just wars

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### post #2 — Ava Cart — Dec 9, 2023 at 4:45 PM

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### post #3 — Heylo — Dec 9, 2023 at 5:08 PM

My current Guildmates really want to start warring,

We're Guild Level 38, there isn't another level 100+ in this Guild

They don't listen to me that we literally have no chance in hell under these circumstances to do anything.

Because they are newer Players, I've seen Guild Warring now with the the tower and previous with the mob masses, neither system was engaging, neither had lower level support.

It's really annoying so yea really good points.

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### post #4 — Earthbrine — Dec 9, 2023 at 6:29 PM

Is the mobs doing millions of damage per hit thing fixed yet?

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### post #5 — TheNelston — Dec 9, 2023 at 11:17 PM

Ava Cart said:

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true .

Heylo said:

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My current Guildmates really want to start warring,

We're Guild Level 38, there isn't another level 100+ in this Guild

They don't listen to me that we literally have no chance in hell under these circumstances to do anything.

Because they are newer Players, I've seen Guild Warring now with the the tower and previous with the mob masses, neither system was engaging, neither had lower level support.

It's really annoying so yea really good points.
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sadly, the only way to do guild stuff as a low level is not to do guild stuff at a low level, its sad but thats how it is until they overhaul it

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Is the mobs doing millions of damage per hit thing fixed yet?
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fortunately yes

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### post #6 — Elytry — Dec 10, 2023 at 9:35 AM

As the only high-level member and owner of a very small guild, I concur with all the points in this video.

Another critique I have is for the guild system itself requiring at least 5 players to even be able to customize your own banner. I feel like something so simple as banner customization shouldn't even require the points obtained from the objective.

I've been thinking about a guild post, and one may be coming in the near future.

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### post #7 — tig — Dec 10, 2023 at 9:35 PM

I feel like we renew the cycle of "yo, guilds are kinda garbage" every couple years. Are they just destined for mediocrity?

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### post #8 — TheNelston — Dec 10, 2023 at 11:35 PM

Elytry said:

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As the only high-level member and owner of a very small guild, I concur with all the points in this video.

Another critique I have is for the guild system itself requiring at least 5 players to even be able to customize your own banner. I feel like something so simple as banner customization shouldn't even require the points obtained from the objective.

I've been thinking about a guild post, and one may be coming in the near future.
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I never understood why guild banner customization isn’t available right from the get go- are we not supposed to be able to make our banners cool and unique right away?

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I feel like we renew the cycle of "yo, guilds are kinda garbage" every couple years. Are they just destined for mediocrity?
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At current rates, yes; if something fundamentally changes, no

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### post #9 — QKhanh2308 — Dec 11, 2023 at 11:38 PM

It is very fun when 8+ guilds (sometimes even big ones) all go for ffa territories cuz no way in hell they can compete against big ones wdym

fr though I look at those 5 light forest ters and then I look at the guild hall and I see #18-37 all competing for those 5 territories or the ones near waterfall. It is funny and sad.

also please make guild banner SR based award not a top 20 award, every small guild just want 2 things and that's the banner+2 tomes at 70k SR

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### post #10 — TheNelston — Dec 12, 2023 at 1:30 AM

QKhanh2308 said:

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It is very fun when 8+ guilds (sometimes even big ones) all go for ffa territories cuz no way in hell they can compete against big ones wdym

fr though I look at those 5 light forest ters and then I look at the guild hall and I see #18-37 all competing for those 5 territories or the ones near waterfall. It is funny and sad.

also please make guild banner SR based award not a top 20 award, every small guild just want 2 things and that's the banner+2 tomes at 70k SR
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wynncraft if they just made banners significantly more customizable and tomes more accessible:

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### post #11 — TheNelston — Dec 15, 2023 at 4:14 AM

small bump, will be uploading a guild wars guide soon (ish)

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### post #12 — ClassicalMusic — Dec 18, 2023 at 7:35 PM

Wish guilds will have a update, it has the potential to be a big part of Wynncraft and I know players who've been playing for years that have grinded would love to see a system where guilds are my involved with the game. Hopefully the Wynncraft team will come up with something in the future as the next big update. And if it does come out hopefully I would get the chance to experience it!