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### post #41 — kjshdfasklgla — Jun 9, 2016 at 3:08 PM

Mr_Robin_Hood said:

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i dont know why you are making such a big deal about this.

HAX themselfs seem to be pretty okay with it.
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Lol...

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### post #42 — coolaccountname — Jun 14, 2016 at 3:42 PM

Meh. I don't pay attention to guilds too often nor am I in one, but I can see that most people want a fair chance in Wynn... With a group of 60 higher level (meh, 75ish and over) players versus, I don't know, 49 players in their level 60's to high 80's, the odds would be fairly uneven. Hax has worked very hard, but as you know, every guild will eventually fall (Fuq). An alliance of littler guilds versus a huge guild would seem fair.

FishWaffle said:

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To all people calling this hate: Just try to put yourself in thier shoes for a mere second. Lets say you want to grow your guild to get your friends in, yet after taking a single territory its taken by a guild with no need to even capture. That would make me pretty pissed. Now I get Hax has worked hard, but at the same time you all need to consider the smaller guilds. Since they cant get land, they have to take it, and the only way is to ally.
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"Since they cant get land, they have to take it, and the only way is to ally"

but i wasnt really in a guild so you can't trust me 100% ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

https://gyazo.com/73a20d9a491dd40d697263e6e251440d

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### post #43 — Intrapillium — Jun 12, 2016 at 11:08 PM

I feel threatened...

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### post #44 — Mrussell75 — Jun 12, 2016 at 11:10 PM

The hack forums are coming the hax forums are coming

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### post #45 — Cloud — Jun 13, 2016 at 5:21 AM

From my point of view, This thread consists of multiple Guilds being salty, And 1 Guild over-reacting.

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### post #46 — funnysillyman — Jun 13, 2016 at 6:48 AM

Zarati said:

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From my point of view, This thread consists of multiple Guilds being salty, And 1 Guild over-reacting.
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Salty pizza would taste awful ngl.

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### post #47 — Cybersoap707 — Jun 13, 2016 at 7:41 AM

Zarati said:

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From my point of view, This thread consists of multiple Guilds being salty, And 1 Guild over-reacting.
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You can think whatever you want but you probably think that because

1. You aren't in a guild and don't understand

2. You're in a big top 20 guild and don't understand that we can't get land

3. You're in a small guild but don't even care about guilds much.

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### post #48 — Coronaus — Jun 13, 2016 at 3:23 PM

Probs won't work but good luck. Legio only lost its territory when it collapsed from the inside.

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### post #49 — Intrapillium — Jun 13, 2016 at 5:21 PM

Zarati said:

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From my point of view, This thread consists of multiple Guilds being salty, And 1 Guild over-reacting.
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And one being silly about the whole thing.

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### post #50 — Coronaus — Jun 13, 2016 at 5:48 PM

Cybersoap707 said:

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You can think whatever you want but you probably think that because

1. You aren't in a guild and don't understand

2. You're in a big top 20 guild and don't understand that we can't get land

3. You're in a small guild but don't even care about guilds much.
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Its only natural that the stronger guilds would be the only ones that can hold land. Its basic Darwinism. Its like saying a brand new CS:GO player can be given a high rank like distinguished master elite. The strong are those that get the large rewards, in wynn's case, land. And if you are wondering, I've been in everything from my own low level clan, to a normal low level clan, to TNA, and now to a high tier landless clan. While I do wish you luck in your endeavors I personally don't believe you will be able to muster a force that can threaten them.

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### post #51 — Cybersoap707 — Jun 13, 2016 at 6:32 PM

Night Corsair said:

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Its only natural that the stronger guilds would be the only ones that can hold land. Its basic Darwinism. Its like saying a brand new CS:GO player can be given a high rank like distinguished master elite. The strong are those that get the large rewards, in wynn's case, land. And if you are wondering, I've been in everything from my own low level clan, to a normal low level clan, to TNA, and now to a high tier landless clan. While I do wish you luck in your endeavors I personally don't believe you will be able to muster a force that can threaten them.
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Well, we will still try and we have hope

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### post #52 — FishWaffle — Jun 13, 2016 at 10:31 PM

Night Corsair said:

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Its only natural that the stronger guilds would be the only ones that can hold land. Its basic Darwinism. Its like saying a brand new CS:GO player can be given a high rank like distinguished master elite. The strong are those that get the large rewards, in wynn's case, land. And if you are wondering, I've been in everything from my own low level clan, to a normal low level clan, to TNA, and now to a high tier landless clan. While I do wish you luck in your endeavors I personally don't believe you will be able to muster a force that can threaten them.
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What you leave out is yes, it may be bigger, but Darwinism forgets plenty of smaller forces can beat a larger one. While a beginner CSGO player cant beat a competitive player, five or more could. But who knows, Im just interested to see what happens next, Hax will fall one day, its inevitable, even if its not by this.

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### post #53 — Drew1011 — Jun 13, 2016 at 10:56 PM

BringBack2011 said:

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Meh. I don't pay attention to guilds too often nor am I in one, but I can see that most people want a fair chance in Wynn... With a group of 60 higher level (meh, 75ish and over) players versus, I don't know, 49 players in their level 60's to high 80's, the odds would be fairly uneven. Hax has worked very hard, but as you know, every guild will eventually fall (Fuq, HoL). An alliance of littler guilds versus a huge guild would seem fair.

"Since they cant get land, they have to take it, and the only way is to ally"

but i wasnt really in a guild so you can't trust me 100% ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

https://gyazo.com/73a20d9a491dd40d697263e6e251440d
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What about HoL falling? We are very much alive. We recently created a new alliance. We just don't participate in wars anymore.

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### post #54 — DirtyDoge — Jun 13, 2016 at 11:41 PM

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As of right now there is a big problem in the guild system....

its not that guildmembers get no benefit from their guilds.

its not that a lot of guild commands are bugged.

its not the lack of guild buildings

its that Hax currently owns 94 territories
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Actually, the first three are bigger issues.

EDIT: Nevermind, the first two only. What do you even mean by guild buildings?

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### post #55 — DragonEngineer — Jun 14, 2016 at 9:10 AM

Good luck :)

We are alliance with Hax but that also means we can't take anything :(

Please add territory for dernel jungle and Gavel asap

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### post #56 — Yuno F Gasai — Jun 14, 2016 at 2:18 PM

FishWaffle said:

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To all people calling this hate: Just try to put yourself in thier shoes for a mere second. Lets say you want to grow your guild to get your friends in, yet after taking a single territory its taken by a guild with no need to even capture. That would make me pretty pissed. Now I get Hax has worked hard, but at the same time you all need to consider the smaller guilds. Since they cant get land, they have to take it, and the only way is to ally.
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Been on both sides and I can tell you right now that this alliance won't work.

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### post #57 — coolaccountname — Jun 14, 2016 at 3:40 PM

Drew1011 said:

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What about HoL falling? We are very much alive. We recently created a new alliance. We just don't participate in wars anymore.
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Shhh the last time I actually payed attention to guilds was early 2015 ;-;

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### post #58 — WhettoWen — Jun 14, 2016 at 7:29 PM

Although I do find it a bit annoying to go from Detlas to Ragni and have every single territory owned by Hax, My guild is in a alliance with them. You have to admire the time and effort put in by Hax members to be able to maintain all that territory. If I wanted to I could easily go online, find 10 territories that aren't owned by Hax or any other guild in our alliance, and take them. You just have to want it, and have a very active guild.

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### post #59 — Lemniscate — Jun 14, 2016 at 11:25 PM

It's been a while since I've played the "White Knight" role, so why not play the card again for old times sake?

First of all, there's no harm in what these people are doing. Some of these people in the thread that I know somewhat personally, need to chill out. What's wrong with a couple lower guilds trying to take down larger ones? It's not being salty, its competition. Isn't that the whole point pf guilds?

Not only that, you cant really blame people for looking up to the more powerful guilds and complaining about them. I'ts human nature to be envious of those we think to be "above us".

Not only that, but most people now these days could care less about guilds. Let's face it, the whole concept was doomed to fail in the very beginning. I like to say that the only reason they exist is as an emerald sink to help balance out the economy.

Anyway, my point is that when you look at a #1 guild, for an example FuQ more closely, you'll see that the real difference between them and smaller guilds is 1-3 people who care very deeply about their guild's place on the leader board. If you really want to beat Hax, you gotta put in the play time to do it. That being said, like many others on this thread have already said, this isnt going to work.

Unless one of you in the guilds that participate in this alliance are willing to stay up at night and play during the day to maintain all that land, the whole thing is a bust.

Unlike what many others have already said, I'll wish you luck on your endeavor. What's the harm in trying right?

That's all I gotta say, sorry for the rant.

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### post #60 — WhettoWen — Jun 16, 2016 at 6:47 AM

As of now Hax has ONE territory. Is that this alliance working, Or does Hax have many EU players, or is Hax just to lazy to FIGHT LEVEL ONE MERCANRIES IM LOOKING AT U TTZ AND WoC (no hate)